Sorry, I changed the tittle because... I don't have enough material to focus on PNG. Thus, I will be focusing more on Timor Leste and ASEAN.
Dear Timor Leste,
7th December 1975, we remember your family members who died 36 years ago at the hands of the Indonesia military troops. On behalf of Indonesian people, I deeply apologize for the tragedy. The Indonesian government should admit its crime by not only submitting to the court’s ruling but also by apologizing to the family members of those who lost their lives in the massacre. The confession is really important to help both parties to sincerely forgive what had happened and move forward.
Why, they ask, are the Indonesians invading us? Why, they ask, if the Indonesians believe that Fretilin is communist, do they not send a delegation to Dili to find out? Why, they ask, are the Australians not helping us? When the Japanese invaded, they did help us. Why, they ask, are the Portuguese not helping us? We’re still a Portuguese colony. Who, they ask, will pay for the terrible damage to our homes? ([link])
“We will continue to work hard to help realize Timor Leste’s vision to be a member of ASEAN,” (Indonesia Foreign Minister Marty Natalegawa told his Timor Leste counterpart José Luis Guterres on Tuesday that Indonesia would continue with its support for Timor Leste’s bid to join the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) despite Indonesia no longer holding the chair of the 10-nation group.) Source :[link]
The Revolutionary Front for an Independent East Timor (Portuguese: Frente Revolucionária de Timor-Leste Independente or FReTiLIn) is a leftist political party in East Timor. Source:[link]
=> East Timorese casualties
In March 1976, UDT leader Lopes da Cruz reported that 60,000 Timorese had been killed during the invasion. A delegation of Indonesian relief workers agreed with this statistic. In an interview on 5 April 1977 with the Sydney Morning Herald, Indonesian Foreign Minister Adam Malik said the number of dead was "50,000 people or perhaps 80,000". A figure of 100,000 is cited by McDonald (1980) and by Taylor. Amnesty International estimated that one third of East Timor's population, or 200,000 in total, died from military action, starvation and disease from 1975 to 1999. In 1979 the U.S. Agency for International Development estimated that 300,000 East Timorese had been moved into camps controlled by Indonesian armed forces. Source:[link]
=> US approved 1975 Indonesian invasion of East Timor
Document 1, dated July 5 1975, is the record of a discussion between Ford and Suharto held at Camp David in the United States. The two leaders met just two months after the final US defeat in Vietnam, discussing their joint interests in suppressing political and ideological ferment in South East Asia. Suharto sought increased US military and intelligence assistance. He also bluntly declared that there was no alternative to incorporating East Timor, and labelled the Timorese political groups calling for independence as “Communist-influenced”. Source :[link]
=> US Policy of Silence and Military Assistance for The Invasion
A year earlier, in December 1974, United States Secretary of State Henry Kissinger had been asked by an Indonesian government representative whether or not the US would approve the invasion. In March 1975, U.S. Ambassador to Indonesia David Newsom, recommended a "policy of silence" on the issue and was supported by Kissinger. On 8 October 1975, a member of the United States National Security Council, Philip Habib, told meeting participants that "It looks like the Indonesians have begun the attack on Timor." Kissinger's response to Habib was, "I'm assuming you're really going to keep your mouth shut on this subject."
The US also played a crucial role in supplying weapons to Indonesia. A week after the invasion of East Timor the National Security Council prepared a detailed analysis of the Indonesian military units involved and the U.S. equipment they used. The analysis revealed that virtually all of the military equipment used in the invasion was U.S. supplied: U.S.-supplied destroyer escorts shelled East Timor as the attack unfolded; Indonesian marines disembarked from U.S.-supplied landing craft; U.S.-supplied C-47 and C-130 aircraft dropped Indonesian paratroops and strafed Dili with .50 caliber machine guns; while the 17th and 18th Airborne brigades which led the assault on the Timorese capital were "totally U.S. MAP supported," and their jump masters U.S. trained. While the US government claimed to have suspended military assistance from December 1975 to June 1976, military aid was actually above what the US Department of State proposed and the US Congress continued to increase it, nearly doubling it. The US also made four new offers of arms, including supplies and parts for 16 OV-10 Broncos, which, according to Cornell University Professor Benedict Anderson, are "specially designed for counter-insurgency actions against adversaries without effective anti-aircraft weapons and wholly useless for defending Indonesia against a foreign enemy." The policy continued under the Carter administration. In total, the United States furnished over $250,000,000 of military assistance to Indonesia between 1975 and 1979.
Testifying before the US Congress, the Deputy Legal Advisor of the US State Department, George Aldrich said the Indonesians "were armed roughly 90 percent with our equipment. ... we really did not know very much. Maybe we did not want to know very much but I gather that for a time we did not know." Indonesia was never informed of the supposed US "aid suspension". David T. Kenney, Country Officer for Indonesia in the US State Department, also testified before Congress that one purpose for the arms was "to keep that area [Timor] peaceful."
The UN's Commission for Reception, Truth and Reconciliation in East Timor (CAVR) stated in the "Responsibility" chapter of its final report that U.S. "political and military support were fundamental to the Indonesian invasion and occupation" of East Timor between 1975 and 1999. The report (p. 92) also stated that "U.S. supplied weaponry was crucial to Indonesia's capacity to intensify military operations from 1977 in its massive campaigns to destroy the Resistance in which aircraft supplied by the United States played a crucial role." Source:[link]
=> Australia let Indonesia invade East Timor in 1975
Australia knew in advance of the 1975 Indonesian invasion of East Timor and stood by for three days while Jakarta's troops prepared for the attack, secret documents released yesterday by the government revealed. Memos, cables and letters sent and received by Australia's foreign department between 1974 and 1976 confirmed that Australia gave tacit approval to Jakarta to annex the former Portuguese colony.
Australia was the only western nation to recognise Indonesia's rule over East Timor. Source :[link]
Timor Leste OC design by Hetalia belongs to Himaruya Hidekaz Indonesia aph and Malaysia aph based on Himaruya's sketch. ([link])
I swear Americans are idiots, Im half pinoy/mexican but was born and raised in the Americas and I do love the people and the idea of equality among the differences but for the love of god it's like no one here knows how to run politics. I mean seriously, if you take a look at our history we use "justice" to fight many unjust causes and every one is to stupid to see that the only reason they call it justice is so that the people who don't look at the entire situation and think for themselves believe they're doing the right thing. *sigh* I wish more people here knew how to think a little.
It was a cold war era. USA are convinced his allies to fight the "evil" communism and return peace and stability to the Asia Pacific. Thus, he involved SEA nations like Australia, Philippines, etc in the Vietnam war, and Indonesia in Timur Lorosae invasion. All of the weapons are supplied by USA, the invasion are from US consent and it was USA who keep the media in the dark about this "invasion". We weren't given much choice, especially since USA supported our dictator president. Anyone who protested will be killed. I know some Timorese refugees who took shelter in our neighbourhood... it was dark times..
I don't think it's as simple as that. the 'hero' mentality that we associate so much with US now has only developed during post-cold war era (if you pay attention closely america only uses the "I'm a hero!" catchphrase in strips set in present day)
this was mostly because of widespread paranoia. it was the 1970s; vietnam already fell into communism and a lot of americans thought that the rest of south east asia would too. not to mention soviet had reached nuclear parity by then. it's more of "don't lose to communism" and less of "we're the best and we're the hero."
it's easy to put all the blame on america but frankly all nations always try to forward their interests. america was hardly the only person pulling the strings. let's not forget the fact that indonesia tried to abuse the post-cold war era political sphere (that tended to lean towards third world nations) so that UN would side with indonesia instead of netherlands and even the native papuans during the takeover of papua in 1950s
I can see that, but we have to admit him growing up as "the land of new opportunities" the "land of the free (from England)" and such helped. The paranoia alone isn't enough to form that hero mentality, in my opinion, though it definitely helped (as well has his role in the 2 world wars)
Yes, all countries pull their own strings to stay in power/alive. Germany is pulling tons of them in the EU and the other countries are not happy about it. But our problem with America's string pulling is the amount of damage he's causing for his own benefit Like Germany the strings being pulled are threatening the countries own sovereignty (we don't have as much problems with China for example because he keeps things at financial level, at least here). But while Germany operates more within the European sphere, America's reach is worldwide and some of the tactics are down right nasty
P.S: Just so you know I condemn the hidden string pulling for everyone, Portugal included, not just America. The type of reach he has is what is scary and puts me on edge
I think I interpreted some of your previous sentences wrongly so I'm sorry and thanks for explaining yourself
yeah I agree with the whole "land of new opportunities" thing, american exceptionalism has definitely shaped the psyche of the americans and is probably one of the main reasons for the hero mentality. and I can see how the magnitude of america's actions is the one that concerns people the most, though I guess there's nothing I can say about that. part of it is definitely america's fault, but I also think that part of it is the world's fault for practically shoehorning america into filling up the vacuum in the world leadership, hence allowing its actions to have the very magnitude they're concerned with now. it's like the world was begging for america to be involved ("league of nations failed because you weren't involved!"), and once it is, they're complaining for america's involvement. this doesn't mean i agree with america's involvements (somalia was such a trainwreck), but sometimes the world acts like america owes something to them, like they are /entitled/, which is a really ridiculous notion, sadly :/
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