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Liever Turks dan Paaps ("Rather Turkish than Papist"), also Liever Turksch dan Paus ("Rather Turkish than Pope"), was a Dutch slogan during the Dutch Revolt of the end of the 16th century. The slogan was used by the Dutch mercenary naval forces (the "Sea Beggars") in their fight against Catholic Spain.

During the Dutch Revolt, the Dutch were under such a desperate situation that they looked for help from every nationality, and "indeed even a Turk", as wrote the secretary of Jan van Nassau.[1] William of Orange had already sent ambassadors to the Ottoman Empire for help in 1566, and it is speculated that it was in response to William's request that Selim II sent his fleet to attack the Spanish at Tunis in 1574.[1] The Dutch saw Ottoman successes against the Habsburgs with great interest, and saw Ottoman campaigns in the Mediterranean as an indicator of relief on the Dutch front. William wrote around 1565:

"The Turks are very threatening, which will mean, we believe, that the king will not come to the Netherlands this year"

—Letter of William of Orange to his brother, circa 1565.[1]

The British author William Rainolds (1544–1594) wrote a pamphlet entitled "Calvino-Turcismus" in criticism of these tendencies.[2]

The phrase "Liever Turks dan Paaps" was coined as a way to express that life under the Ottoman Sultan would have been more desirable than life under the King of Spain.[3] The Flemish noble D'Esquerdes wrote to this effect that he:

"would rather become a tributary to the Turks than live against his conscience and be treated according to those [anti-heresy] edicts"

—Letter of Flemish noble D'Esquerdes.[3]

In effect, Turks had a reputation for cruelty, but they were also known for their tolerance of other religions[4] within his dominions, whereas the King of Spain did not tolerate the Protestant faith.[3] At one point, a letter was sent from Suleiman the Magnificent to the "Lutherans" in Flanders, claiming that he felt close to them, "since they did not worship idols, believed in one God and fought against the Pope and Emperor".[5][6] The Ottoman Empire was indeed known at that time for its religious tolerance. Various religious refugees, such as the Huguenots, some Anglicans, Quakers, Anabaptists or even Jesuits or Capuchins were able to find refuge at Istanbul and in the Ottoman Empire,[7] where they were given right of residence and worship.[8] Further, the Ottomans supported the Calvinists in Transylvania and Hungary but also in France.[9]
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Hetalia, England aph, Spain aph, Egypt aph, Italy aph, Macau aph & Netherlands aph belonged to Himaruya H.
Spice Islands is Maluku Islands in Indonesia.
Indonesia aph, Malaysia aph & Portugal aph based on Himaruya's sketch. ([link])

Al-Andalus design by 増田ヒメノ in pixiv, link :[link]

Scotland aph & Luxembourg aph from Hetawiki : [link]
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Why is Hungary just sitting there ?